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On 4/3/2021 at 10:19 AM, ccfc147 said:

There’s a new channel on youtube calling out chipmonkz , roshtein and hideous for being fakers.

only been active the last week or so. Anyone seen it?

Not seen it mate. Id like to think they had proof of there accusations though.

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he was saying streamers dont say much about Affiliates, and how much streamers make of us when we sign up through links, yes most of it was rubbish talking, but he was correct that streamers dont say anything about Affiliates apart from sign up with this link.... but he was only going after a few streamers... Fruity wasnt one of them...

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1 hour ago, S.Lippitt said:

he was saying streamers dont say much about Affiliates, and how much streamers make of us when we sign up through links, yes most of it was rubbish talking, but he was correct that streamers dont say anything about Affiliates apart from sign up with this link.... but he was only going after a few streamers... Fruity wasnt one of them...

100 sign ups = 5k as it’s mostly £50 per sign up and they giveaway between £500-£1k of it so a £4K profit say every few months plus the revenue share so it’s big money and I don’t honestly agree with affliation hence why I don’t watch many streamers any more 

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2 hours ago, Pickup51 said:

100 sign ups = 5k as it’s mostly £50 per sign up and they giveaway between £500-£1k of it so a £4K profit say every few months plus the revenue share so it’s big money and I don’t honestly agree with affliation hence why I don’t watch many streamers any more 

i signed up with party casino with fruity, the offer was crap. i would of preferred 50 free spins on starburst lol and thats what they offer on there own.. when streamers say it helps do the videos... we are not dumb.... so most of what this guy said was a load of crap. but some wasnt.... yes i know affliation is highly regulated as i work in the gambling industry.. but now i dont sign up with any links, unless they are offering free money, then i dont put any real money on the site....

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Taking the moral argument away from affiliation or any gambling advertising/marketing then one of the overriding facts is that a player who signs up via an affiliate links is in NO WAY worse than signing up directly. It's EXACTLY the same for the player, but in some instances signing up through an affiliate link may give them an exclusive welcome bonus, some retention rewards or some cash giveaways on top.

Anti affiliates just don't like the fact that affiliates earn from players signing up to casinos through them and seem to rather the casino took the whole amount. This point of view is warranted if they believe ALL gambling marketing/advertising is wrong and should be stopped completely but that's very very very unlikely to happen as no marketing would mean no business and uk gambling isn't going to disappear off the face of the earth despite the regulatory changes.

 

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On 4/3/2021 at 10:19 AM, ccfc147 said:

There’s a new channel on youtube calling out chipmonkz , roshtein and hideous for being fakers.

only been active the last week or so. Anyone seen it?

 

He makes so many factually wrong statements that he believes are correct based on zero evidence and his own misguided view. Its quite funny to watch really.

He seems to think streamers need to be millionaires doing £5 spins. For some reason he doesnt take into account the daily bonuses that streamers get which mean streamers sometimes play at close to 100% rtp so you really don't need hundreds of thousands to stream on those stakes.

I would actually like to have an interview with him. Would be amusing.

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I really don’t understand the hate for affiliation to be honest. If you are going to deposit at a casino and go on to lose why does it matter to you if the money goes to the casino, an affiliate or mr smith from down the road? Really baffles me that seems to be hate towards affiliates for receiving whatever money from your losses, can’t see how the casino keeping 100% is so important 😂

If anything almost a benefit to having an affiliated account in that should you have any issues you’ve potentially got another contact to help resolve? Maybe I’m wrong but I’m sure if you had an issue then the fruity guys (or any reputable streamer) would be more than happy to help, so for no extra cost you’re actually getting a better service? Perhaps I’m missing something but to me it’s an absolute non issue. 
 

Now if people are moaning about the ‘pushing of links’ or anything like that as long as it’s not really aggressive then it’s absolutely no different to a tv advert or any other marketing? To be fair I only have one casino account that is linked to an affiliate (as far as I’m aware) so perhaps I am missing something but never once have I noticed a single difference between a linked and non linked account so can’t see the problem?

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On 4/7/2021 at 1:35 PM, Farmer1112 said:

I really don’t understand the hate for affiliation to be honest. If you are going to deposit at a casino and go on to lose why does it matter to you if the money goes to the casino, an affiliate or mr smith from down the road? Really baffles me that seems to be hate towards affiliates for receiving whatever money from your losses, can’t see how the casino keeping 100% is so important 😂

If anything almost a benefit to having an affiliated account in that should you have any issues you’ve potentially got another contact to help resolve? Maybe I’m wrong but I’m sure if you had an issue then the fruity guys (or any reputable streamer) would be more than happy to help, so for no extra cost you’re actually getting a better service? Perhaps I’m missing something but to me it’s an absolute non issue. 
 

Now if people are moaning about the ‘pushing of links’ or anything like that as long as it’s not really aggressive then it’s absolutely no different to a tv advert or any other marketing? To be fair I only have one casino account that is linked to an affiliate (as far as I’m aware) so perhaps I am missing something but never once have I noticed a single difference between a linked and non linked account so can’t see the problem?

I don’t understand either and I don’t see the problem

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If I’m joining a casino I’d defo use a link you have extra chance on winning some money! Through the comps!! You get extra help if anything was to ever go wrong and it supports the streams and uploads 🤷‍♂️ It’s a no brainer for me I’d rather someone else got a cut rather than the casinos getting everything!!

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I really don't understand the trouble some of these people go to. I was watching one video the other day where the "anti" was going through a Roshstein video frame by frame trying to prove that he was on demo, not playing real money. It was comical really. The point is, if you don't like streamers such as Roshstein, Classy Beef, Chip, Hideous, Fruity or anybody, don't watch them!! It's pretty simple. Why the constant need to bash them and accuse them of this that and the other, I really don't know. These people have a huge chip (no pun intended) on their shoulder. and too much time on their hands. Plenty of people watch slot streams and enjoy them. Some clearly think they are a bunch of money-grabbing fraudsters. Vote with your feet-don;t like-don't watch!

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6 hours ago, gusyonok said:

I really don't understand the trouble some of these people go to. I was watching one video the other day where the "anti" was going through a Roshstein video frame by frame trying to prove that he was on demo, not playing real money. It was comical really. The point is, if you don't like streamers such as Roshstein, Classy Beef, Chip, Hideous, Fruity or anybody, don't watch them!! It's pretty simple. Why the constant need to bash them and accuse them of this that and the other, I really don't know. These people have a huge chip (no pun intended) on their shoulder. and too much time on their hands. Plenty of people watch slot streams and enjoy them. Some clearly think they are a bunch of money-grabbing fraudsters. Vote with your feet-don;t like-don't watch!

Roshstein is a great entertainer... but thats it lol!

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I think that you will find that this guy has probably had a right spanking from online gambling and has got himself into deep trouble financially.

He is probably hurting so bad that he feels that he has to lash out at other gamblers who he perceives are winning too often or indeed are cheating somehow.

It's a classic response from a problem gambler who has nowhere else to go and the only response is anger and a lot of envy.

 

 

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On 4/7/2021 at 10:39 AM, FruitySlots said:

 

He makes so many factually wrong statements that he believes are correct based on zero evidence and his own misguided view. Its quite funny to watch really.

He seems to think streamers need to be millionaires doing £5 spins. For some reason he doesnt take into account the daily bonuses that streamers get which mean streamers sometimes play at close to 100% rtp so you really don't need hundreds of thousands to stream on those stakes.

I would actually like to have an interview with him. Would be amusing.

I asked him to take you up on the interview he said he couldnt as he would lose his benefits because scotty said he would pay him for it 🤣

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59 minutes ago, gusyonok said:

Simon is right-the guy is a tool-ignore him and he'll get bored

yes... he wants to be the most talked about person on streaming... and he is achieving it..... he is a tool.... 

why would you go for UK Streamers, when UK Casinos aint going to do nothing wrong or they lose they license a quick as you can drink a cup of tea!

 there are plenty of NON UK streamers on twitch what are fake!

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It’s the age we are in, most people are on a quest to have someone fired, discredited or financially impacted. There are so many examples, you see it daily with some arsehole with a phone in an employees face making some mountain out of a molehill. Nobody can handle the success of others without their jealousy taking over. As someone said before this guy has clearly lost big and has no idea how to deal with it.

 

everyone knows what affiliate links are for and if you don’t then they are the least of your problems in the gambling world.

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Quite simple really dint like dint watch...iv been watching these guy nearly 4years now n will continue to do so..josh n jamie are great entertainment as for scotty the guy took time out of his day to email when i was very low he didnt have too but he dud speaks volumes to me n the guy in my eyes us a legend...team fruity team scotty booooom

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